Stationery - what did you pay?

I diyd mine so I have no idea what they usually cost and I'm wanting to start making and selling STDs, invites, place names, signage etc. I'll have a look on etsy where I'll be selling  from and other places to get an idea of prices as well but I want to make something really personal. It'll definitely include a personalised illustration of the bride and groom - would that warrant a few extra pennies or not?

 

Basically for those who didn't DIY but bought theirs - what did you pay and what did you get?

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(our save the date featuring illustration)

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  • SadieeeSadieee Posts: 1,775 New bride

    I paid around £140 and for this I got STD magnet with matching envelopes x50, invites and matching envelopes x50, evening invites and matching envelopes x10, envelope stickers x120

    Edit: Added pics for reference

    Save The Dates

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    Invites

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  • Bebe2Bebe2 Posts: 60

    I did my save the dates as just an image on picmonkey and sent them around on WhatsApp.

    The invite design I bought off Etsy. I got invites printed in India for £250 quid of which £80 was for the gold foil lettering. This was meant to be for 180 invite cards plus two sets of details cards and thick gorgeous scented envelopes but he ended up giving us around 250 for some reason. I was getting quotes of over a grand to have them printed in the UK as they are on heavy pearl paper. Not sure what I would have done if I hadnt have been going to India.

  • Barbie3Barbie3 Posts: 340

    We used Vistaprint to print are own designs n paid less then £100 for 60 StD, 50 Wedding invites, 80 Evening invites, 30 thank ou cards n a couple of sheets of envelope seal stickers, all on recycled paper.  Really happy with quality.

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    Sugar Silvia wrote (see post):

    Good question!

    If you are thinking of selling your products on Etsy or other platforms such as Ebay and Amazon you need to do some research before you jump into it.

    There are quite a few things to think about first:

    1. Cost of materials (card, embellishments, ink, twine, envelopes...)

    2. Fees that all these platforms will charge you to sell through them: Ebay 10 -13%, Amazon 20%, Etsy 3%.

    3. Don't forget to take into account Paypal fees (4%)

    4. Delivery charges to post to your customers

    5. Last but not least, your time, which is very valuable. You have to put a price on that too!

     

    Let us know if you have any questions as we will be more than happy to help you!

    Silvia @ https://wwww.sugarcrushweddings.com

    :)

     

     

    Thank you :) I've put together a business plan with ymy fiance which is looking pretty sound so far! I don't have a job so hoping this will be a job I'm able to do and my fiance is a marketing manager so hopefully he can help the business become bigger (fingers crossed!)

  • Sian91Sian91 Posts: 828 New bride

    I personally wouldn't pay more than £3.50 an invite- our save the dates were about £1.50 each including the envelope.

     

    Are you planning to draw them all by hand or draw one then produce more using a computer? There's lots of people doing this and more online so would wonder if the market is quite saturated with established companies?

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    Sian91 wrote (see post):

    I personally wouldn't pay more than £3.50 an invite- our save the dates were about £1.50 each including the envelope.

     

    Are you planning to draw them all by hand or draw one then produce more using a computer? There's lots of people doing this and more online so would wonder if the market is quite saturated with established companies?

    All hand made - it's what I enjoy doing and I don't have much else going on lol and also even if a few people are doing personali illustrations, every artist has a different style!

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride

    If this isn't appropriate then of course admin can delete it that's fine but could y'all help me name the store please?  I want to name it after my son August so I've got either 

    AugustDayDesigns

    Or 

    AugustSkiesDesigns

    Any opinions welcome!

  • stacey147stacey147 Posts: 108

    Made my own, 85 save the date, 50 day and 35 evening invites. Materials cost around £50.

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  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride

     

    I know I'm being the worst bcos i think  we can all agree people advertising or asking people to help with their business etc is super annoying and gets in the way of real discussion but this thread is already up so I'm not making another one, I'm not posting a link or anything I just want some feedback please! I've made my first few mock ups and wanted to get opinions. Basically are they ready to sell yet? The idea being that I create a personalised illustration of the couple, they can choose the colours and any particular flowers they want on it for example.

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  • DesertpixieDesertpixie Posts: 94

    We are going down the digital route for us.

    I am using greenvelope to send them out with RSVPIFY plugged into that for menu and acceptance tracking and table planning, it also comes with an app so people can accept on that too. We are building a website on square space. It's just easier and a lot cheaper as our guests are coming from UK, USA, Singapore, Malaysia, UAE, Australia - the postage would cost a fortune.

    We are doing token keepsake invites for the family so a print run of maybe 15. Total cost for us is around £100-£200 all in for website, greenvelope, rsvpify, design template and print cost. 

  • DesertpixieDesertpixie Posts: 94
    Awhelenqt wrote (see post):

     

    I know I'm being the worst bcos i think  we can all agree people advertising or asking people to help with their business etc is super annoying and gets in the way of real discussion but this thread is already up so I'm not making another one, I'm not posting a link or anything I just want some feedback please! I've made my first few mock ups and wanted to get opinions. Basically are they ready to sell yet? The idea being that I create a personalised illustration of the couple, they can choose the colours and any particular flowers they want on it for example.

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    These are beautiful! I would buy for sure x

  • These look great! 

    Do you mind me pointing something out though? On the ones that that say ‘we‘re getting hitched‘ the ! looks more like a ? to me. Obviously, it’s a statement not a question. I hope you don’t mind me mentioning that!

  • Sian91Sian91 Posts: 828 New bride

    The ones you’ve shown are probably nearly there. I agree they need to be digital too- for quality control/consistency and to make it feasible for you to make any money. 

    The designs look cool and going down the digital route would add an extra layer of professionalism. DIY is cute but it’s best when it’s your own DIY? Amazing for your own invitation and guests knowing the bride/groom did them but slightly odd to purchase and send in my opinion If they look homemade. 

  • DandelionBlueDandelionBlue Posts: 934 New bride

    First off, I think they are beautiful. And I do like the concept of personalizing the couple. However I agree that that business wise this might be a problem. At the same time it's definitely a unique selling point.

    But I do think there is a compromise between the two. You could for instance offer both readymade digital print invites as your bread and butter. But then have an option for a completely personalised original one. At a higher cost of course. Or you could create an add-on where you personalise just the characters. Or you could do all of those options.

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    Beth78 wrote (see post):

    I think they are beautiful, honestly, as a business plan, I would say just in terms of man hours, you should draw the base then reproduce via a printer Then hand draw the finer details if you want to, honestly the man hours it would take just to produce 1 then to exactly reproduce it 100+ more times it just wouldnt be viable as a business, and you would start to resent it! Honestly for a really well made invite I would be happy to spend £6-8 per invite, including rsvp/information/ menu cards etc. 

     

    I will also say say that I wouldn’t want to wait more than 2-3 weeks for dispatch on my invitations or it would really put me off (due to viability of reclaim if something should go wrong) so again hand producing each one would be far too much time and stress on you! 

     

    ETA: Iqras hair doesn’t quite look right, I can see what you were trying to convey but it doesn’t work for me so as a sample of your work I would redo that one without the break in the plait

    Way ahead of you! All the components of these were made separately. I made all the backgrounds then scanned them in to use in the future, I've made a master page of fonts and different writing, then the flowers and leaves are all separate as well and of course the couple then I scan them all in to my laptop and edit them all together.

    I've also decided to go down the route of selling the image instead of making and sending physical invitations. so I'll create the personalised image then they can buy it for £40-50 and print as many as they want. It'll work out cheaper for them if they have loads of guests and me looking after my 1 year old means I'll have more time :)

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    Nottinghamshirebride wrote (see post):

    These look great! 

    Do you mind me pointing something out though? On the ones that that say ‘we‘re getting hitched‘ the ! looks more like a ? to me. Obviously, it’s a statement not a question. I hope you don’t mind me mentioning that!

    I absolutely don't mind! This is why I wanted feedback. I wouldn't want to charge someone for something that isn't perfect! I'll go and change it on my master list :) thank you 

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    DandelionBlue wrote (see post):

    First off, I think they are beautiful. And I do like the concept of personalizing the couple. However I agree that that business wise this might be a problem. At the same time it's definitely a unique selling point.

    But I do think there is a compromise between the two. You could for instance offer both readymade digital print invites as your bread and butter. But then have an option for a completely personalised original one. At a higher cost of course. Or you could create an add-on where you personalise just the characters. Or you could do all of those options.

    I probably should've explained what I've decided to do haha that is how it'll work, I'm making loads of mock ups now so people can just pick the design which I already have saved on my laptop then I just have to draw the couple which doesn't take much time at all! And the only reason I would offer different colours is because I've got a whole inventory of the different colours lol I've created everything I'll need now before I open and while my fiance can watch our son so that when we go live it's literally just the couple drawing and minimal effort :P

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    Sian91 wrote (see post):

    The ones you’ve shown are probably nearly there. I agree they need to be digital too- for quality control/consistency and to make it feasible for you to make any money. 

    The designs look cool and going down the digital route would add an extra layer of professionalism. DIY is cute but it’s best when it’s your own DIY? Amazing for your own invitation and guests knowing the bride/groom did them but slightly odd to purchase and send in my opinion If they look homemade. 

    This is really helpful thank you! Could you tell me what specifically you think looks too homemade? Like the background, the drawing, the writing etc? Because I don't have the equipment or know how to digitally draw the couple :/

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    Beth78 wrote (see post):
    Awhelenqt wrote (see post):
    Beth78 wrote (see post):

    I think they are beautiful, honestly, as a business plan, I would say just in terms of man hours, you should draw the base then reproduce via a printer Then hand draw the finer details if you want to, honestly the man hours it would take just to produce 1 then to exactly reproduce it 100+ more times it just wouldnt be viable as a business, and you would start to resent it! Honestly for a really well made invite I would be happy to spend £6-8 per invite, including rsvp/information/ menu cards etc. 

     

    I will also say say that I wouldn’t want to wait more than 2-3 weeks for dispatch on my invitations or it would really put me off (due to viability of reclaim if something should go wrong) so again hand producing each one would be far too much time and stress on you! 

     

    ETA: Iqras hair doesn’t quite look right, I can see what you were trying to convey but it doesn’t work for me so as a sample of your work I would redo that one without the break in the plait

    Way ahead of you! All the components of these were made separately. I made all the backgrounds then scanned them in to use in the future, I've made a master page of fonts and different writing, then the flowers and leaves are all separate as well and of course the couple then I scan them all in to my laptop and edit them all together.

    I've also decided to go down the route of selling the image instead of making and sending physical invitations. so I'll create the personalised image then they can buy it for £40-50 and print as many as they want. It'll work out cheaper for them if they have loads of guests and me looking after my 1 year old means I'll have more time :)

    I would NEVER fork out £50 for just the image that I then have to print and make into invitations. Infact if I was making my own invitations I wouldn’t pay Anything for just an image. I’m really sorry but I don’t think that’s a viable business plan. but I would pay £6-8 per invite if something like this was made for me. 

    I only chose that price point based on research of similar personalised products selling the digital image - they generally appear to be about £50 so like people with 100 guests would be getting a bargain especially if they choose not to send physical invites and send them around digitally. Honestly before I started researching it I thought it was a bit mad too but there is a market for it and people are paying for it so I'm thinking £40 at a lower price point while I'm starting I'll still make a profit 

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    Beth78 wrote (see post):

    I don’t think many people would buy them, you would be limiting yourself greatly To maybe 3-4 people on a good season. Why don’t you offer both?  i was honestly contemplating changing my invites to you until you said you were only selling the image 😂

    I just don't have the time to make physical invites  and send them out... I have really bad anxiety which is why I don't have a conventional job because some days I wake up and can't leave the house for 5 days and I wouldn't want to let anyone down when they're expecting me to send them out and I can't even get to the post box :/

    What do you think about while im establishing myself selling the image only still but for a much lower price? Like how much would you think is reasonable? It'd probably make sense to do this to gauge interest 

  • AwhelenqtAwhelenqt Posts: 778 New bride
    Beth78 wrote (see post):

    Im sorry about your anxiety, and I completely understand the restrictions on this. i am unfortunately not in a position to tell you how much you should charge due to the fact I would not pay anything for just a digital image, I just wouldn’t go down that route! I would suggest doing a survey monkey and seeing what people say on that xx

    Survey monkey would probably be a good idea thank you! I sent you a message as well by the way :) x

  • Melanie YYWMelanie YYW Posts: 89 admin

    This is such an interesting thread! I love your invites, and know that personalised illustrations are big business in the wedding industry! We've even seen some couples have illustrators actually on their wedding day doing quick sketches of guests as favours. 

    This could be something you branched into too, although I know that with anxiety that can seem impossible. 

    I think your idea to sell the images is a great one, though personally, when I'm on Etsy etc. looking at prints and then realising it's £10 just to download the digital image and then print myself, I tend to go elsewhere and buy from a seller who prints it for me, even if the price is a little bit more. 

    Just throwing in my thoughts!

     

  • TalieDTalieD Posts: 11

    My partner is a graphic designer so i'm very fortunate that he'll be designing everything and can get cheaper print details.

    I think some people have been a little too harsh that £50 is too much - It's business at the end of the day, but I'd suggest you provide the original for them to keep too.

     

    If you're working freelance really you should charge a min wage x 3 + materials, but a lot of people always want a lot for not a lot! These wouldn't be for me, i'm very into typography, but I wish you lots of luck! I defo would consider a relationship with a printer that can print them for you so you can provide that as a service for people 

  • I have to agree with some of the ladies above, I wouldn’t buy these for a few reasons:

    1. The cost - I think £50 for a digital version is way too much (I know not everyone agrees here). But, I just wouldn’t spend anywhere close to that I’m afraid. 

    2. If I did buy the digital copy it’s extra time and effort to them go and get them printed. I got my invites via vistaprint and actually customised the invites by changing the colours etc and adding in extra images to suit the theme. It was all done in one place, so much better in my opinion. 

    3. Someone else mentioned about them being DIY. I agree with this 100%. It’s great when couples DIY things themselves and it can be a great taking point, but these clearly look diy so doesn’t make sense for someone to buy them as that, imho. 

    BUT, you are clearly talented and I’m sure YOUR guests will be impressed with your invites knowing that you made them yourself. 

     

  • Barbie3Barbie3 Posts: 340

    ^ agreed.  I love good DIY/handmade that people have done 4 themselves, but buying someone else's just seems a bit weird n lazy 2 me.

    I DIY's my own design n got our invites printed thru Vistaprint 4 less then u want 2 charge 4 just the image.  I just wouldn't consider that expense 4 an unfinished product, sorry.

  • AnnaNicetyAnnaNicety Posts: 1

    I'm a graphic designer so I love paper and printing techniques. I designed my own but had them printed with a very high spec so they cost £700. For me it was definitely money worth spent, I had such wonderful feedback, and it is the first thing your guests see, so it sets the tone for the day. It's also what started my new business venture! 

     

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